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Logan Sekulow: On today's show, we have a new update with new evidence in the California election scandal. Keeping you informed and engaged. Now, more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
Logan Sekulow: All right, let's break down what this story was in case you didn't join us the day we covered it just a little bit ago because now we have breaking information that takes this from bad to worse. This is coming out of the state of California where the ACLJ got involved and said, "Hey, what is your procedure when it comes to people who are trying to vote illegally?" And the answer essentially was, "What procedure?" But now there's even more. Will is joining us. Jordan will be with us in just a moment. We got Rick Grenell popping in a little bit later on the show, so it's going to be slammed. But Will, let's walk it back a little bit. Give them a brief version of this story and then where we're at.
Will: That's right. So if you'll remember, we sent two state Sunshine laws, so the equivalent of a FOIA request to California. One to the Secretary of State's office and one to the Department of Justice's office within the state of California. We told you already on the show that when we sent this to the Secretary of State and we'll get into this more in the next segment, but the Secretary of State was like, "Hey, guess what?" We don't. If we take someone off the voter rolls, we don't notate that it was because they were a non-citizen. But don't worry, it's a crime if someone were to register to vote under penalty of perjury and get on that list if they're a non-citizen. So we're like, okay. That's shocking, but there's still a missing piece. We need to know what the Department of Justice in California is doing to keep these elections secure. Because they keep telling us these are secure elections. We don't need voter ID, we don't need these things.
Will: So we were waiting. They asked for an extension and we got the response partially from the Attorney General's office at the Department of Justice in California. And here's what it says: "Two of the requests, they say we still need some more time," so a couple more weeks. "But then all the records related to addressing policies for handling investigative referrals for illegal voting that we requested, this was their response: In response to Part 2 of your records request, after a reasonable search, including contacting knowledgeable individuals, DOJ has not identified any records containing or addressing policies that are specific to handling investigative referrals for illegal voting. This concludes the DOJ's response to Part 2."
Logan Sekulow: So now we know that the Secretary of State doesn't keep track of when they're taking people off the rolls for being illegal voters, and the DOJ doesn't have any policies for investigating the illegal voting.
Logan Sekulow: They're doing nothing about this issue. If you wondered what's happening around the country in terms of voter identification, voter verification, it is very clear that in certain states, which we know have had issues with this before, there's a whole lot of nothing happening. And that is where the ACLJ is stepping in. We're going to get to work on it. Jordan's joining us right now. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Like I said, Rick Grenell from California is going to be joining us in just a few minutes, but I want you to give me a call. Is this shocking to you at all to hear that these areas, these specific locations, which have dealt with a lot of not necessarily only fraud, but a lot of conversation around the way elections have laid out that they're practically doing nothing? That they don't only not have any sort of plan, they have no plan for a plan. They're not looking into it. They're turning a blind eye to it and we've essentially admitted that.
Logan Sekulow: Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. The ACLJ is getting involved, of course it is. Wrapping up our Impact Match. Can you believe it, folks? We're here on what, the 18th of the month? Summer is finally coming to an end, but the Impact Match will go through the rest of the month. I need you to be a part of the team today. Go to ACLJ.org and have your donation doubled. And this is just the beginning. We're going to tell you about what we're doing to take action, not just in California, but in additional states and localities to preserve election integrity as we head into a midterm election. You know this is important for you, it's important for all of us and it should be at least important for the American people. Show us how important. Go to ACLJ.org, have your gift doubled today and let me know by calling in 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back.
Logan Sekulow: We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy, and across the globe, innocent Christians are being targeted and killed across this country and around the world. This fight isn't just the ACLJ's, it's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ Champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at ACLJ.org/freedom.
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Logan Sekulow: All right, we're back.
Jordan: My voice cracked there because you know, I'm this emotional about this.
Logan Sekulow: Phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110. Jordan's joining us in studio now. Of course, we were talking about the ACLJ's work here and I think this is always important to point out when we are directly involved. You know, you've heard some of these big stories, yesterday we're talking about the bounty for our soldiers that's happening in Iran. You're hanging out all these, you know, situations where the ACLJ can't get involved in a diplomatic way. We can get involved in an international way.
Jordan: The European Center for Law and Justice and the work we've done at the International Criminal Court. That usually comes after the fact though when the war is over.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, this though, we're directly involved and we are actually leading the charge here.
Jordan: That's right. And Jordan, this is a state FOIA request essentially. It's not called FOIA, but we know.
Logan Sekulow: Every state's got their own reason a lot of them are called State Sunshine Laws.
Jordan: That basically allows citizens, it shouldn't have to take attorneys and legal groups to do it, but because these governments, like the federal government, even under this administration as we know and the political appointees will tell you, you're going to go up against those bureaucrats. You're going to have to ask hard and usually take them to court to get any answers. Here, you know, the first response from the Secretary of State's office is, "We got nothing. We don't track anything about removing people from the list that has to do with being non-citizens," which is bizarre because federal law requires you to have the reasons and so there's no way of knowing then why if their list has removed people who should not have been voting at all, even in San Francisco that allows legal non-citizens, so people who are here legally but aren't citizens, to vote for the school board. They allow that, but there's like who else is tracking and they're saying you can't even check a box. Then you go to the AG's office and they're saying, you know, we could we'll look through some some cases and some actions for you, but as of right now, we've got no policy on this.
Will: Well, and remember.
Jordan: In a state that's probably got the most illegal immigrants in it next to maybe Texas, which is of course cracked down a lot harder than the state of California.
Logan Sekulow: It's a big issue state. I mean this should be something that's really top tier.
Jordan: And remember what happened in New Jersey that we just talked about, where they discovered that they they accused a glitch of happening within the software that allowed people to register when they just got their driver's license through motor voter laws. We see we're fighting in Maryland right now to get records related to this because Maryland, some cities, like we're talking about in California, allow non-citizens to vote in municipal elections. So we're asking in Maryland, how do you keep those two rolls separate? Or if someone moves to another city and says, "I'm registered to vote," how do they not automatically get statewide? We're asking these questions.
Jordan: In California, here's what's so shocking to me is one, we didn't even have to sue yet because in California, the Secretary of State just came back and said the quiet part out loud by saying, "We don't track it." So therefore, we have nothing to give you. But here's what I want to point out. Remember, they said they don't contain voter status reason for cancellation due to non-citizenship. That's what the Secretary of State told us. But then tried to kind of assuage any concerns that we may have that this could lead to illegal voting by putting this, this is graphic one.
Jordan: "California law unambiguously provides that a person shall not be registered unless they are a United States citizen." California Elections Code 2100, 2101. "Voters register to vote through affidavits of registration when they must attest under penalty of perjury and by signature that they satisfy all eligibility requirements, including citizenship." So they're saying, "Look, we don't track it, but don't worry, it's illegal. So you don't have to be concerned about people illegally registering to vote because it's a crime. They'll get in trouble."
Jordan: Then you fast forward to what we just got from the Department of Justice. This is the entire reason our attorneys had to go to both places because they say, in response to Part 2, which Part 2 was the question where we asked all for all records containing or addressing policies for handling investigative referrals for illegal voting, what their response was. "In response to Part 2 of your records request, after a reasonable search, including contacting knowledgeable individuals, DOJ has not identified any records," meaning any documents, anything written down, any procedures, "addressing policies that are specific to handling investigative referrals for illegal voting. This concludes DOJ's response to Part 2."
Logan Sekulow: So the Secretary of State's saying they don't track it, but don't worry, it's illegal. So if there's a law being broken, the DOJ will handle it. The DOJ says we don't have any policies related to investigating that. So Jordan, are they telling us this isn't a priority?
Jordan: And they also Now what? That these things are not a priority. I mean, they go on and say, sometime around October, I mean August 27th, we're going to give you some information about how the DOJ said they could it found some records that could be responsive, but they need more time to review them for redactions and exemptions. I even that could be. They're not even sure if the records they found are actually responsive to our request about whether or not if anybody calls in and has a question. I imagine it's a worker. A lot of those are volunteers. It could be a small area in California, it could be a big precinct. And you go and vote and someone's there, and maybe their info doesn't show up. And they there's questions about citizenship because the ID and you don't have to have an ID there. And so usually you do a temporary you do a provisional ballot, right? So you'd call in then to and they have rules, you'd call and say, "Okay, I let this person do a provisional ballot." And sometimes they can come back in and correct it. You can say if you come back in, we correct it, and it doesn't have to be provisional anymore.
Jordan: Where is that going in California? And I feel like it's going into a deep dark hole that says, "Let's let everybody just vote."
Logan Sekulow: I think we'd be surprised how often this does happen. I was in line here in Tennessee, voting at the primary election. This is someone who is motivated enough to go vote in a primary and then got there, was not registered, had just moved to to Tennessee. Younger person, didn't understand necessarily the rules. Not everyone is engaged and informed as people who listen to this show. You may not understand. There are people who are willing to get in a long line, go try to vote, but then have no idea or understanding that they are not registered or have registered in the wrong place. And the same thing I saw, and say, "Okay, we got to get on a phone call. They got on a phone call with the the head of whatever the election committee that makes this decision." Like I saw it all play out in real time and it made me go, "Oh, this is crazy to me that this is what happens not on again, not a general election." This is a primary for governor here in Tennessee. And someone still showed up to to vote because they wanted to. I don't think they were trying to vote illegally. They just weren't completely uninformed.
Will: Well, and I.
Jordan: There's no where to go or where they're registered the right place.
Logan Sekulow: Oh yeah, or they were and they were with somebody who maybe was like, "Let's go vote."
Jordan: And you know, early voting even confuses that more because when it's early voting, you can usually vote in any precinct in the state. So you could be uh, someone who votes, let's say in Memphis, but you're in uh, Knoxville during early voting. You're you're able to go into Knoxville, which you would not be able to do an election day. And you'd have to go to your precinct in Memphis, but you could go early voting and show up at one in Knoxville and they've got to handle you on the record system. So while again, I think early voting can be good and bad, and I think there's rules around it that can make it better. The closer it is to to the actual election day, the better. Uh, because we know you find out a lot about candidates right before elections. And now what they do if you notice with the attack ads is the attack ads start running right before early voting begins now. So you start getting all that, which doesn't always give time for the person who was attacked necessarily to get their response up before people are already voting. That's not good for our system either.
Logan Sekulow: Well, and I think what what comes next? Because this is ACLJ attorneys that are are working very diligently on this, trying to get these records. One, we have to see what the DOJ says later in this month, in just about 10 days from now, we should get more records. We can analyze those. But there's a lot of different avenues. One, just the Secretary of State's office alone, noting that they don't keep the reason for taking someone off their rolls, could be a violation of federal law. That's something that we could send to the the Federal Election Commission, saying you need to look into this. Congressional oversight. We have a lot of allies in Congress that we could get this information to as they look at strengthening our elections.
Logan Sekulow: But I think it's also it goes to show there's a ballot measure on the ballot in California for voter ID that the the very same Attorney General's office, who uh right here is saying we have no policies for uh investigating illegal voting or people that are registered to vote illegally. He's the one who changed the language on the ballot provision to make it harder to pass by changing it from a we are requiring ID to protect the elections to we are barring people from voting unless they show ID, even the negative inference there. So what we're looking at is moving forward, the different steps that can come, we are going to analyze what comes in later this month and be able to look forward at the next steps of how to keep going.
Logan Sekulow: That's right. And I want in the next segment for you to join us as well. As we're going to continue talking about the work of the ACLJ in a completely different manner, but again, it kind of ties itself in. You're not going to want to miss this. You'll see how the ACLJ is getting involved in a lot of different legal pursuits and people who are uh essentially have been targeted for just being representation of President Trump, of the Trump administration, of conservatives. We'll get back to that in the next segment. But we'll still take calls on this and phone lines are open. I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. All the lines are open. Okay? We've given you all the information. I see how many of you are watching. Some of you got to have calls. You got to have a comment. I know you do. 1-800-684-3110. Maybe you're one of those people who got in line and you're like, "Man, I got in line and I didn't know." Too busy at the Taymen Paula show, just it's what happens. 1-800-684-3110. Be on the air today.
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Logan Sekulow: We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy, and across the globe, innocent Christians are being targeted and killed across this country and around the world. This fight isn't just the ACLJ's, it's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ Champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at ACLJ.org/freedom.
Logan Sekulow: Do you even realize the impact you make? Choosing freedom or oppression? Justice or corruption? Faith or godlessness? Life or death? One factor can make the difference. And what is it? You. As an ACLJ supporter, you have great power. You make a tremendous impact. And this month, you can double that impact. Right now, your most sacred rights as an American, your freedom of speech, your freedom to pray and worship, even our free and fair election process, are being threatened. Right now as part of our ACLJ Impact Match, you can double your support. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your tax-deductible gift doubled. Dollar for dollar, doubling your impact to defend faith, freedom and innocent life. Your impact is powerful, but the time is short. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your gift doubled today.
Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. Of course, we just were talking about what was going on in California and our investigation into how they treat voter fraud, voter ID, voter certification, to make sure the people actually are voting that should be voting. And we learn very quickly that they don't have a whole lot of standards and practices. And we're going to get to that. Same time, the ACLJ is dealing with another matter here that I think we want to get into. Again, this ties in somewhat to this issue of election integrity, but also the importance of being able to have proper representation.
Jordan: Well, and this is the thing that the ACLJ has fought back against in many different avenues for a long time. And it's it's lawfare that's used by the left to try to go after their political enemies using the legal system as a form of attack. And I I've seen people on Rumble and on YouTube as well comment that they've seen this this case that we've taken on being talked about in other areas and that they were excited about it. We hadn't addressed it on air yet. But this is where the ACLJ Jordan is representing Professor John Eastman. He was an attorney that represented President Trump, much like yourself and your dad. That the state of California decided to go after him because of his representation of President Trump. He was never sanctioned by a court. He was never found of of doing misconduct as an attorney, but they went straight to disbarment and now we are having to take this to the Supreme Court of the United States to fight for justice here.
Logan Sekulow: You know, what's interesting in the United States of America, we are protected even as attorneys to make novel legal arguments that may not have been made before in past history because they weren't necessary or our brains weren't having to deal with the problem that was at hand. And even if that is not going to be one that ultimately gets accepted generally by the courts, it doesn't mean that by putting it forward to the courts, you are somehow violating your oath as an attorney. The only way that would be like a violation, you'd really have to figure out intent here is if you knew 100% that this was uh somehow illegal to even put this forward or you were totally wasting the court's time.
Jordan: Very rare.
Logan Sekulow: And usually that wouldn't happen until a court had already said we would never consider this because of X, Y and Z. And you could usually appeal that court and then appeal to the next court, and to the next court, and then if you're in state court, you can ultimately appeal that decision to the US Supreme Court. And then if you kept doing it, they might. But think about how many people, sometimes on their own or just small legal offices, file bad claims in in local and state courts. And while they may get sanctioned sometime, they may get a little fine. What they don't have taken away is their bar license.
Jordan: They usually just lose.
Logan Sekulow: Sometimes they lose and the court's kind of tough on them. And and then the State Bar may look at it after maybe five or six times and say, "They need to go back through and do a special legal training." But they're very cautious about just revoking licenses 100% with with like no due process, no way to move forward, no way to get that license back because you put forward a novel legal theory in a very quick, heated time in the United States involving a presidential election, so things have to move fast, that ultimately courts did not accept. And because of that, you are somehow uh uh your entire practice of law uh needs to be deleted and you need to be removed. This is like you're canceled from being an attorney in the state of in the state of California because you took a position their courts did like.
Jordan: Well, and Jordan, that one.
Logan Sekulow: Your Bar Association didn't like.
Jordan: Why we have to take this to the Supreme Court is that it it's the way that the California Bar works. It goes through the State Supreme Court and then now it's the the court of first look here is the Supreme Court of the United States for us to make this appeal. So it's a direct jump to the Supreme Court and we'll be filing very early. But I wanted to bring up what you just said was so fascinating because the lawfare here isn't just against Professor Eastman. And that's why sometimes we have to.
Logan Sekulow: We need to go to the exhibit.
Jordan: Why we have to protect uh the attorneys here is because what their goal isn't just to get Professor Eastman disbarred. It's that that conservatives won't have anyone to represent them. I saw Ted Cruz put out a a graphic yesterday about how the political donations of like the top 100 law firms in the country, not even one of them has more than 50% to a Republican.
Jordan: That now that's fine. That's freedom of speech, freedom of association. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. But if you make it toxic or you make it something to be ashamed of if you represent a conservative, then when uh whenever the left wants to use lawfare against you, then you have no one to represent you. And that's one of the other key elements here is trying to protect the right to an attorney for every American here, not just the President or or or future political politicians. It's when the left wants to use the courts as a weapon of political power, you have to have someone that can represent you, including ACLJ attorneys.
Logan Sekulow: Yes, I mean, this is that is you're right. The ultimate goal is to scare people away from cases that may be controversial or maybe new. And and in the but you know what if you look back in history, Logan and Will, if you look back in history, the the cases that were novel, the cases that were new. Starting with the powers of the federal government and the judiciary, the Marbury v. Madison. Going to the Civil Rights Movement, the post-Civil War reconstruction. If if again, it was tough for those NAACP attorneys to go to court because of the death threats. But imagine if those courts and their bar associations just started disbarring them because they say, "You know what? We don't our laws say that you're not you don't get to vote, you don't get to have this representation. And so so you you're putting forth arguments that are in direct conflict with our state law. You've been you've lost four or five of these cases. We're going to disbar you." And and instead what they would do then is they'd imprison sometimes the attorneys, you know, in contempt, that's just even worse to some extent. But uh, I don't remember them having their licenses necessarily revoked. Um, so has it gotten even worse than what was happening during the Civil Rights movement for conservatives? I mean, I don't think we're there yet, but that's the idea. The idea is to scare you away and it's why those big law firms will uh donate to the Democrats. Republicans don't believe this. You could be a far-left attorney. We don't believe that you should be barred from being an attorney because you you come up with novel legal theories, especially if you're coming out of the world of legal academia, which is what they're working on constantly. I mean.
Jordan: Your job is to.
Logan Sekulow: Your job is to defend a client. It's not necessarily to even agree with your client.
Jordan: And you're coming up with any possible way to defend them. And usually you put up three or four different ways. If the court doesn't like this, also court needs to look at this, and if it doesn't like this, you should look at this. But he is in a situation where he was dealing with a hostile bar association, then a hostile state court system. And it will be interesting to see here in the Supreme Court. We're going to be filed in less than two weeks.
Logan Sekulow: That's what I was going to say. We're about to hit the break, but what is that next step? What do we do and how can everyone get involved?
Jordan: Yes, we've got less than two weeks here. So we need people to go to ACLJ.org and get supportive because that will mean a reply brief's coming and and again, we're a lot of work on this before you actually get to the decision about whether the court is going to take the case.
Logan Sekulow: So the ACLJ is involved in all these issues today as we've been really highlighting a lot of the work that we're doing directly and I wanted to make sure you know that because we are, of course, well over halfway through our impact match and I need you as we head to a break to donate today if you can at ACLJ.org. Look, we got a second half hour coming up. But all donations are matched. Some of you losers here, some of your local radio stations, they only carry a half hour. Well, we have a full hour show each and every day. Be a part of it. Streaming live 12:00 to 1:00 p.m. Eastern time. That is Monday through Friday on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, of course, on ACLJ.org. It's probably the easiest way to just find all the places that's active. And you can get your podcast later on archived. But again, second half hour coming up. Rick Grenell's joining us and I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. But as we head to a very, very short break. Less than a minute. So if you're going to join us online, hop over right now. Less than a minute. I want you to go to ACLJ.org, make your donation today and have it doubled. We got to tackle these new challenges and we can't do it without you. We'll be right back.
Logan Sekulow: As an ACLJ supporter, you have great power. You make a tremendous impact. And this month, you can double that impact. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your tax-deductible gift doubled. Dollar for dollar, doubling your impact to defend faith, freedom and innocent life. Your impact is powerful, but the time is short. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your gift doubled today.